admin abuse

i was on one of your tf2 servers today when one of your admins proceeded to cheat by using noclip and passing over us to cap cart, very lame tactic, i've been a server admin for jolt for about 7 years through tfc, tf2, ff and if your trying to build a community or clan your not exactly making a good impression on the public, i started to complain about this to admin then i got kicked for being 'disrespectful' understandible as i did insult him after he cheated, but whats the point of having VAC secured servers and banning cheats when your own admins are doing the same.


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HASHmonKEY connected
Redownloading all lightmaps
[8U] A Fish Called Wanda killed [8U]¹ Demo Chicken with tf_projectile_pipe_remote.

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[TF2] Equipment Manager
version 1.1.5 - By Damizean

[8U]¹ Demo Chicken killed [8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� with obj_sentrygun.
HASHmonKEY killed [8U] A Fish Called Wanda with tf_projectile_rocket.

Welcome to the 8th Underworld [8U] server! Have fun!
[8U]¹ Demo Chicken killed [8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� with obj_sentrygun.
(ALL) ADMIN:
LOL
HASHmonKEY killed [8U] A Fish Called Wanda with tf_projectile_rocket.
[8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� killed HASHmonKEY with scattergun.

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[8U]¹ Demo Chicken killed [8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� with obj_sentrygun.
HASHmonKEY killed [8U] A Fish Called Wanda with tf_projectile_rocket.

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-Hansen' connected
[8U]¹ Demo Chicken killed [8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� with obj_sentrygun.
HASHmonKEY killed [8U] A Fish Called Wanda with tf_projectile_rocket. (crit)

Welcome to the 8th Underworld [8U] server! Have fun!
(TEAM) -Hansen' : what?
[8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� killed HASHmonKEY with backburner. (crit)
*DEAD*(TEAM) HASHmonKEY : where is this server?

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(ALL) ADMIN:
ty
[8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£�, [8U] A Fish Called Wanda captured First Cap, Stage Three for team #3
-Hansen' killed [8U] A Fish Called Wanda with knife. (crit)
-Hansen' defended Second Cap, Stage Three for team #2
[8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� killed -Hansen' with backburner. (crit)
[8U]¹ Demo Chicken killed [8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� with obj_sentrygun2.

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HASHmonKEY killed [8U] A Fish Called Wanda with tf_projectile_rocket.

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HASHmonKEY killed [8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� with tf_projectile_rocket.
HASHmonKEY killed [8U] A Fish Called Wanda with tf_projectile_rocket.

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-Hansen' killed [8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� with knife. (crit)
HASHmonKEY killed [8U] A Fish Called Wanda with tf_projectile_rocket.
HASHmonKEY killed [8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� with tf_projectile_rocket.

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(ALL) ADMIN:
wow
-Hansen' killed [8U] A Fish Called Wanda with knife. (crit)
[8U] A Fish Called Wanda killed -Hansen' with flamethrower.
-Hansen' : Who is admin ?

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HASHmonKEY killed [8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� with tf_projectile_rocket.
[8U] A Fish Called Wanda killed [8U]¹ Demo Chicken with flamethrower.
[8U] A Fish Called Wanda killed HASHmonKEY with flamethrower.
-Hansen' : 8U's ?
*DEAD* HASHmonKEY : most likely

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[8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� killed [8U]¹ Demo Chicken with syringegun_medic.
+[SP]+calgar connected
[8U] A Fish Called Wanda killed HASHmonKEY with flamethrower.

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-Hansen' defended Second Cap, Stage Three for team #2
[8U] A Fish Called Wanda killed -Hansen' with flamethrower.
[8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£�, [8U] A Fish Called Wanda captured Second Cap, Stage Three for team #3

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HASHmonKEY killed [8U] A Fish Called Wanda with tf_projectile_rocket. (crit)
[8U]¹ Demo Chicken killed [8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� with shotgun_primary.
[8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� killed [8U]¹ Demo Chicken with blutsauger.
+[SP]+calgar killed [8U]¹ Demo Chicken with tf_projectile_rocket.
-Hansen' killed +[SP]+calgar with tf_projectile_rocket.

If you see ERROR above heads, re-join the server with downloads on then restart game if that doesn't work
[8U] A Fish Called Wanda killed HASHmonKEY with flamethrower.
-Hansen' killed [8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� with tf_projectile_rocket.
[8U] A Fish Called Wanda killed -Hansen' with world.
-Hansen' killed [8U] A Fish Called Wanda with tf_projectile_rocket.
+[SP]+calgar killed [8U]¹ Demo Chicken with tf_projectile_rocket.

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+[SP]+calgar killed [8U]¹ Demo Chicken with tf_projectile_rocket.
[8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� : oh
HASHmonKEY killed [8U] A Fish Called Wanda with tf_projectile_rocket.

Welcome to the 8th Underworld [8U] server! Have fun!
-Hansen' killed [8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� with tf_projectile_rocket.
HASHmonKEY killed [8U] A Fish Called Wanda with tf_projectile_rocket.

If you see ERROR above heads, re-join the server with downloads on then restart game if that doesn't work
[8U]¹ Demo Chicken defended Atomic pit, Final Cap for team #2
+[SP]+calgar killed [8U]¹ Demo Chicken with tf_projectile_rocket.
[8U]¹ Demo Chicken killed [8U] A Fish Called Wanda with obj_sentrygun.
[8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� killed HASHmonKEY with tf_projectile_rocket.
[8U]¹ Demo Chicken killed [8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� with obj_sentrygun.
-Hansen' killed +[SP]+calgar with tf_projectile_rocket.

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+[SP]+calgar : kk
Welcome to the 8th Underworld [8U] server! Have fun!
[8U]¹ Demo Chicken killed +[SP]+calgar with obj_sentrygun.
[8U]¹ Demo Chicken killed [8U] A Fish Called Wanda with obj_sentrygun.
[8U]¹ Demo Chicken killed [8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� with obj_sentrygun.
(ALL) ADMIN:
wtf

If you see ERROR above heads, re-join the server with downloads on then restart game if that doesn't work
HASHmonKEY killed +[SP]+calgar with tf_projectile_rocket.
[SM] ADMIN: toggled noclip on [8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£�.
[8U]¹ Demo Chicken killed [8U] A Fish Called Wanda with obj_sentrygun.
[SM] ADMIN: toggled noclip on [8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£�.
HASHmonKEY : wtf?/
+[SP]+calgar : ha ha
HASHmonKEY : admins cheating??

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[8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� : no
[8U]¹ Demo Chicken defended Atomic pit, Final Cap for team #2
[8U]¹ Demo Chicken killed +[SP]+calgar with shotgun_primary.
-Hansen' : abuse
-Hansen' : lame
[8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� killed [8U]¹ Demo Chicken with tf_projectile_rocket.
HASHmonKEY : very lame
alex54a connected
[8U] A Fish Called Wanda killed [8U]¹ Demo Chicken with obj_attachment_sapper.
HASHmonKEY killed [8U] A Fish Called Wanda with tf_projectile_rocket.

Welcome to the 8th Underworld [8U] server! Have fun!
HASHmonKEY killed [8U] A Fish Called Wanda with tf_projectile_rocket.
HASHmonKEY : noclipped through wall
HASHmonKEY killed +[SP]+calgar with tf_projectile_rocket.
[8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� captured Atomic pit, Final Cap for team #3
[8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� suicided.
[8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� killed -Hansen' with world.
-Hansen' : noobs
+[SP]+calgar killed HASHmonKEY with ambassador. (crit)
HASHmonKEY : cheats
alex54a killed [8U]¹ Demo Chicken with flamethrower.
-Hansen' : you can't play without abuse
alex54a killed [8U]¹ Demo Chicken with flamethrower.

If you see ERROR above heads, re-join the server with downloads on then restart game if that doesn't work
HASHmonKEY : low skill nabs
Teams have been switched.

-Hansen' : grow up
(ALL) ADMIN:
loll
[8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� : u guys take game so serious ^^

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HASHmonKEY : admin your a prick and if you think thats the way to build a clan or community your retarded

Welcome to the 8th Underworld [8U] server! Have fun!
[8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� : lol
HASHmonKEY : getting beat, so you cheat???
HASHmonKEY : that just sad
[8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� : neh im having fun making u mad
-Hansen' : ye "lol".. its SO funny
-Hansen' : fucking abuser
-Hansen' : go singleplayer
[8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� : get off then ^^

If you see ERROR above heads, re-join the server with downloads on then restart game if that doesn't work
-Hansen' killed [8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� with tf_projectile_rocket.
[8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£� killed [8U]¹ Demo Chicken with tf_projectile_rocket.
HASHmonKEY : i'll post on your forums let them know what a retard some of thier admins are
-Hansen' killed +[SP]+calgar with tf_projectile_rocket.
-Hansen' killed +[SP]+calgar with tf_projectile_rocket.
-Hansen' killed +[SP]+calgar with tf_projectile_rocket.

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+[SP]+calgar : !admin
Disconnect: Admin disrepect.

Thank you for bring this to our attention. Going through the condump I think this where the problem started.

HASHmonKEY killed +[SP]+calgar with tf_projectile_rocket.
[SM] ADMIN: toggled noclip on [8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£�.
[8U]¹ Demo Chicken killed [8U] A Fish Called Wanda with obj_sentrygun.
[SM] ADMIN: toggled noclip on [8U]¹ ๖گ١Ŀ3ήτ ÅŇǤ£�.
HASHmonKEY : wtf?/
+[SP]+calgar : ha ha
HASHmonKEY : admins cheating??

We do not condone or overlook people using cheats on our servers, especially admin players. Please let me talk to the other admin so we can investigate to what has happen. We will get back to you as fast as possible and take action against the person, if these allegations are true.

all i have to say is that the admin did abuse her powers but i believe this has been blown out of proportion. sure she ceated but Tf2 is just a game. i know her actions were childish but given the circumstances i can see why the admin did what she did. Hashmonkey is a very good soldier and his impressive skills were making us all rage. everyone loses their cool now and then and we all have made decisions that we regret. i think that hashmonkey shud be unbanned and the admin shud give hash a sincere apology and the matter dropped. but if this matter comes up again greater consequences shud be taken.

The said admin has had her admin rights remove for 24 hours and has to make a full apology to the clan on the steam page and forum, as well as making a personal apology to HASHmonKEY and Wanda.

thanks guys for prompt replies,

first thing i'd like to say maybe i took this a little far when i was angry about what happened
i personally don't want admin removed or punished no point really, maybe just a few lessons in the fine art of adminning
i play competatively and i dont like to lose, basically thats were the problem started so apologies to 8U community if i have caused friction between its members, its not what i intended, thanks again

When admins break the rules, we always want to know about it. We take a hard-line when the server rules get being broken, as a lot of poorly run servers, are cause by administrators not doing their jobs properly or not having any disregard for other people.

Thank you again for brining this to our attention and don't feel you have cause friction between the admin staff, cos they all feel the same way about what has happen.

SORRY.

hello guys, i still seem to be banned any chance it could be lifted

Sure

Silent, I thought you'd know better than to pull one like that. Like all of 8U, we should know that when someone's kicking our arses, we bust out the can of whupass and crank up our game. =]